Thursday, June 25, 2009

2009 NBA Draft LiveBlog


Where shall we go from here? Both of these life-long friends will watch the next chapter of their lives unfold tonight. Where will each go? Will Gerald find success in the NBA without a left hand? Will Tyler find success in a league where opponents won't be call for a foul every time they touch him? Those questions won't be answered tonight, but some will. So join DudeSpin for what promises to be a highly entertaining draft. We begin with a look back at the best and worst drafts of the Dude teams in the 2000s.
Dallas Mavericks
Best pick: Josh Howard (2003, pick 29)
Worst pick: Courtney Alexander (2000, pick 13)
With their success in the last decade, the Mavericks only had 2 lottery picks in the 2000s. Without much to work with, the Mavericks enjoyed one of the best draft coups in recent memory by drafting Howard out of Wake Forest at the end of the first round. The well-rounded forward has given Mavericks fans a steady and versatile presence on the perimeter, and some fun memories on YouTube.
Denver Nuggets
Best pick: Carmelo Anthony (2003, pick 3)
Worst pick: Nikoloz Tskitishvili (2002, pick 5)
It is rather strange when passing on Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh nets your best pick of the last decade-but that's what the Nuggets did in drafting their franchise player in 2003. But picking Tskitishvili over Caron Butler and Amare Stoudamire? That takes some more imagination.
Boston Celtics
Best pick: Al Jefferson (2004, pick 15)
Worst pick: Jerome Moiso (2000, pick 11)
Turning a non-lottery pick into Kevin Garnett almost makes up for drafting Moiso in the lottery.
Houston Rockets
Best pick: Yao Ming (2002, pick 1)
Worst pick: Eddie Griffin (2001, pick 7)
Rockets have the morbid distinction of having drafted 2 players with their 1st pick in the last decade who have already passed away: Jason Collier and Eddie Griffin. But having the guts to draft Yao no. 1 despite the considerable hype surrounding Duke's Jason Williams warrants some merit.

156 comments:

Head Dude said...

Perhaps the fact that this is considered one of the worst drafts in recent memory will only increase the entertainment value. Guys like Jeff Teague, who clearly is a flawed point guard even though he can shoot, may be lottery picks, and 6-4 power forwards like DeJuan Blair can find themselves in the top 15-20.

There's no telling what happens after No. 1 ... and that's what makes it FANTASTIC!!!!!!

The Franchise said...

This is already a fun NBA day thanks to Shaq getting traded to the Cavs.

Can't wait for tonight...

The Franchise said...

Also it looks like its official that Vince Carter is on his way to Orlando. So both LeBron and Howard have running mates now.

The Rockets were rumored to be trying to do something, Dude, what do they have up their sleeves?

The Dude said...

The Rockets are trying hard to move up with some combination of Brooks, Landry or T-Mac. Not sure I would even want a pick in this draft.

The Dude said...

Haha - Lisa Salters just suggested that even Taylor Griffin might get drafted!

The Franchise said...

Ricky Rubio looks like he's a really tall 14-year old!

The Dude said...

ahh - Dickie V returns to my television - it's been too long!

The Dude said...

Not sure that Curry would be a great fit in NY. I'm not certain he's all that different from Jamal Crawford.

The Franchise said...

I'm having a really hard time swallowing the idea that Thabeet is the second best player in this draft. Even Jay Bilas is drinking the Kool Aid! What exactly will he give his team on offense? A poor man's Dwight Howard at best...

The Franchise said...

They are really hammering home this puzzle theme!

The Franchise said...

Stern, please shut the hell up and get on with it already!

The Dude said...

let's see how long the Clippers take!! Go!!

Big Daddy said...

gotta have a "state of the union" type of thing. Can we just go to the 2nd pick to see who it is.

The Dude said...

I hope ESPN caught wind of the Lakers hate in MSG! Gotta love it!

The Dude said...

That's a lot of overpaid dead weight in the middle for the Clips. I'm not a huge fan of Griffin's game.

The Franchise said...

Who would be dumb enough to help the Clippers clear up their logjam in the frontcourt? Michael Jordan and the Bobcats, maybe...

The Dude said...

Why do they need 12 people in the Clipper's draft war room?

Head Dude said...

I'm here dudes, will check in more when the baby goes to sleep in 30 minutes. By then, we should be closer to the UNC trio, Gerald, and Jeff Teague.

The Franchise said...

They needed a dozen people there just to make sure they didn't f--- that pick up!

The Dude said...

You have to be a diehard Clipper fan to make the trip to New York, to listen to a pick that you knew was going to be made.

The Franchise said...

The Clippers have struggled recently?!? Yeah, if you define recently as the entire time they've been the Clippers!

The Dude said...

I'll tell you who they don't need - Thabeet

The Franchise said...

The Grizz need Rubio just to add some sizzle to their sorry franchise.

The Dude said...

There it is: chalk up three more years of mediocrity for the Grizzlies

The Franchise said...

Well, have fun sucking again Memphis! Maybe you'll win the draft lottery next season!

Big Daddy said...

I liked how Stern's voice cracked

The Dude said...

Harden is the least impressive high lottery pick i can recall.

The Franchise said...

Here's where things start to get interesting. I like what the Thuder are doing so far, but that may change in a second...

The Dude said...

And, there it is, look for OKC to continue to compete in the lottery next season!

The Franchise said...

Yuck. Well, here's hoping the Dude was wrong. But I tend to agree.

The Dude said...

If the Rockets make a move, it would be here to get Rubio

The Franchise said...

You never want to hear a shooting guard's weakness might be shooting!

Big Daddy said...

Perhaps he's this year's Westbrook??

Head Dude said...

There's a long history of Herb Sendek players succeeding in the NBA, at least if succeeding means surviving a gun shot wound.

Head Dude said...

Isn't Rubio perfect for the Maloofs?

The Franchise said...

This has to be Rubio here. They need a point and some star power.

The Dude said...

Bilas - thank you, it's the 5th time you've mentioned how you think that Evans is the best player available

The Dude said...

T Wolves have to love the fact that they might get Rubio here; Rubio? Not so much!

Head Dude said...

I don't think Spaniards are too fond of the climate in Minnesota.

I forgot how much I love the pace of the NBA draft compared to the NFL, a minute of analysis, a quick interview, and you're on to the next pick!

The Dude said...

Minny fans have to be ecstatic that McHale isn't around to mess this up by drafting Hansbrough.

The Franchise said...

I disagree. I think it's actually too fast. It would increase the chances of the analysts saying inane things if there was more time between picks!

The Franchise said...

BTW, with four first round picks, Minnesota should be able to get at least one good player!

The Dude said...

great pick for the TWolves. Get your parkas ready Ricky!

The Dude said...

No trades during the draft yet - that usually makes things interesting.

Head Dude said...

Quick interlude question: is Michael Jackson's death as big a deal as Elvis's? If not, why not?

The Franchise said...

See, now that's a good pick. The T-Wolves aren't going to be good for a few years anyway, so Rubio has time to figure out the NBA game.

The Franchise said...

Did Rubio just say fifth overall was too high for him?

The Dude said...

You're right Stu, Rubio will never average 44 points in college.

The Dude said...

I'm not too worked up about the death of a pedophile (alleged)

The Franchise said...

Great crack by Van Gundy about how the next Minnesota coach is going to get canned playing five young guys!

Head Dude said...

FLynn and Rubio ... and don't let the door hit you on the way out Randy Foye.

The Franchise said...

Okay, Minny has to be working a trade because that doesn't make sense any other way!

The Dude said...

does that make sense? Flynn? that has got to be a set-up for a trade right?

The Franchise said...

I think Rubio is headed somewhere else since his people didn't want him going there anyway...

The Franchise said...

I like Flynn more after that interview.

Head Dude said...

Is it just me or are Stuart Scott's glasses crooked?

The Dude said...

HAHAHA!!! Love it when the Knicks fans get upset!

Head Dude said...

The draft must always stay in NY, at least as long as the Knicks stink -- Knicks fans create half the entertainment value.

The Franchise said...

The Knicks fans are really sad after that pick. I'm looking forward to seeing Monta Ellis and Steph Curry play together. Lots of exciting losses in G-State this season!

The Dude said...

Did anyone see Seth Curry at the table?

Big Daddy said...

Always loved Dell Curry, what a class act.
As for the King of Pop, I do think it's as big as Elvis music wise but Jackson fell much farther for much longer than Elvis. (see comment on pedophile)

Head Dude said...

The Curry's are good people.

Jordan Hill is a decent pick, since some had him projected going 5th. Still not enough to please Knicks fans!

The Dude said...

I like the little peek in by Stern there, as if he hadn't read it before. Great to draft a back-up to David Lee with pick no. 8.

The Franchise said...

That's a decent pick, just not splashy enough for the Knicks faithful. His interview was also hilarious.

The Dude said...

I guess Knicks liked the Balkman pick so much that they wanted to see what it was like again!

Head Dude said...

Still no trades...

The Franchise said...

I think DD has the biggest boom or bust potential of any of these guys. Another shooting guard whose weakness is shooting! And he's going to Toronto, so there's that.

The Franchise said...

Never fear Head Dude, there are probably trades in the works involving some of the already selected players that just won't get finalized until a little later...

The Franchise said...

Now that's a great EA Sports commercial!

The Dude said...

Remember when Gerald Henderson was projected around this part of the lottery? Then they discovered he had no left hand.

Head Dude said...

The Gerald Watch starts -- all signs point to him going to either the Nets or Bobcats, but no guarantee.

The Dude said...

Wow - Jennings is the 1st reach of this draft, but I like it. I think this is a great pick-up for Milwaukee.

The Franchise said...

I knew someone would roll the dice on Jennings, but I never would have expected it to be the Bucks. Why not? They don't have much to lose.

The Franchise said...

This is a funny story about how he avoided the green room because his people weren't sure he would avoid the sad fate of sitting around waiting to be picked.

The Dude said...

Terrence Williams - your job is to replace Vince Carter... Don't think he'll be up to the task

Head Dude said...

Too bad Redick wasn't part of the Carter trade -- he could be a spot-up shooter trailing the break when Harris is running

The Franchise said...

No surprise there since they just traded Vinsanity...

The Dude said...

A Duke slam! But if we keep bowing out in round 3, no one is going to care about Duke anymore... C'mon - start recruiting K!

The Franchise said...

Henderson here? It makes sense.

The Franchise said...

BTW, I think Henderson will suck as a pro, but I admit he has the kind of game that may translate better to the NBA.

Head Dude said...

Yep Dude, that's the biggest fear -- not just Duke not getting to the Final Four, but people no longer caring about Duke not getting to the Final Four.

The Franchise said...

Interesting that Jrue Holiday is sliding. I don't think he's that impressive, but a lot of analysts seemed to think he had a chance to go top 10.

The Dude said...

notice that he's shaking everyone's hand with his RIGHT HAND! No surprise there.

The Dude said...

Henderson needs to train with the Franchise on going to his left.

The Franchise said...

Yeah, I can teach him to break people down with the left!

The Franchise said...

I knew Bilas was going to say Holiday would be the best pick here...

The Dude said...

Ironic to see Henderson land on top of Hansbrough again. Nice of Knicks fans chant "overrated" - what have you ever done?

Head Dude said...

Indiana seems like a good team for him, probably because Indiana seems like a good state for him.

The Franchise said...

If this guy didn't go to UNC, I'd be rooting so hard for him to succeed just to prove the know-it-all doubters wrong...

The Dude said...

Tyler always seems so stiff when he's chatting.

The Franchise said...

I would love to see Amar'e go to Golden State so he could sulk in relative anonymity!

The Dude said...

I think the two best american white players in the league might be in Indy! (Dunleavy)

Who else is in the mix? Nash isn't American; Dirk isn't; Mike Miller?

The Dude said...

Hilarious! I guess Brandon was okay as long as he wasn't the last guy in the green room. I like this pick by the Suns, it may allow them to deal Amare.

The Franchise said...

I like Clark a lot, but the announcers just ruined a bit by pointing out how small he came up in some of Louisville's toughest games.

The Franchise said...

Brandon Jennings' message to the youth: DON'T stay in school!

The Franchise said...

Why the heck was Austin Daye invited to sit in the green room? I didn;t see any mock draft have him going in the top 15!

The Dude said...

oh wow - such unique interests, a college kid who likes video games and Madden?!?! tell me more!

The Franchise said...

Well, shows what the pundits know! Holiday is by himself in the green room now, as he should be!

The Dude said...

Dickie V just said Curry will be ROY - I guess that's why Dickie V is not coaching in the NBA.

The Franchise said...

Wait, Curry could very well be ROY just chucking it up in G-State's offense!

The Dude said...

I'm not seeing Johnson seeing too much PT in Chicago with Deng and Salmons.

The Franchise said...

I think his PT will be at the 4 because they will trade Tyrus Thomas.

Speaking of trades, it would have been much more hilarious if Steve Kerr would have just said, "Yeah, we're trading everyone and blowing the whole thing up!"

The Franchise said...

Eh, I would rather have Lawson than Holiday.

The Dude said...

and now the green room is vacant!! This is a solid pick by the 76ers, he'll get good tutelage under Miller.

The Franchise said...

The Wolves should take Lawson and really cover their asses at the point!

The Dude said...

I think the Timberwolves should draft Randy Orton, he'll be a good enforcer for those runty guards they drafted early in the draft.

The Franchise said...

The Head Dude is still waiting anxiously for Omri Casspi to get his name called!

The Franchise said...

Holy crap, they did it!

The Dude said...

good call Franchise!

Head Dude said...

Three PGs to Minnesota!

The rumor is that Dallas moved from 22 to 24 because Portland wanted Casspi and was worried he'd go at 23. My actual fear is that Donnie Nelson thinks we can get Casspi at 24, and traded down comfortable with that knowledge.

The Franchise said...

Ty headed to Denver!

Head Dude said...

Chauncey has a new backup! So long Anthony Carter.

The Dude said...

The Nuggets!!! Nwo that will create a conflict for the Franchise

The Franchise said...

I'd rather have him than Flynn, I think. Nut I would have taken Rubio off their hands for sure...

The Dude said...

Wayne Ellington's wait begins!! Here's a question: what will Greg Paulus do here if he gets drafted? will he give up his 3rd string QB gig at Syracuse?

The Franchise said...

Actually if Ellington goes mid-second round he'll be good value at that point, much as it pains me to say it.

The Franchise said...

My brother Nate just texted me and said there will be no rooting conflict for me because Lawson will suck!

The Dude said...

the Jazz draft Maynor! great! I already dislike Maynor.

The Franchise said...

What do the Bobcats need to do to make the playoffs? Get rid of Michael Jordan and possibly Larry Brown as well...

The Dude said...

I love NY fans, still booing Larry Brown.

The Dude said...

Wait, I though Holiday was the last in the green room? WHy is Collison still there? Did he just show up?

The Franchise said...

I thought Collison came out of the crowd. Some of the late first rounders do that.

The Franchise said...

Head Dude, I have a bad feeling Omri is going here...

The Dude said...

Victor!! I think this is the first Victor in the NBA Draft?

The Franchise said...

Shaq playing it straight. Too bad :(

The Dude said...

Great. Shaq brings up MJ - the other MJ - I just don't think he's that iconic.

The Dude said...

Shaq has mental conversations!! Franchise, has Shaq twittered today?

The Dude said...

LOL! The Great Stanley Roberts!!

The Franchise said...

I guess I just needed to give Shaq some time. And I think I'm the only person on Twitter who DOESN'T follow Shaq, so I don't know if he tweeted today. I'd have to think he did...

The Franchise said...

Van Gundy's comments about coaches getting fired are hysterical!

Head Dude said...

Uh oh, I have a bad feeling Caspi is coming to Dallas.

Head Dude said...

Scratch that! He's headed to cow country.

The Dude said...

He won't be the first, Lior Eliyahu will be the first!

The Dude said...

I think the mavs will draft Crystal Taylor

The Franchise said...

Heartbreak for Head Dude as Casspi goes one pick too soon!

The Franchise said...

Though i don't know if it's worth getting excited about someone whose closest comparison was Andres Nocioni...

Head Dude said...

Lior Eliyahu never played in the NBA.

The Franchise said...

Uh-oh. I don't like that pick at all!

The Dude said...

Mullins - wow, that's a throwaway pick.

Head Dude said...

Great - a first-round pick who averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds as a reserve in college.
Just as we regret passing on Glen Davis for Nick Fazekas, we'll regret taking this stiff instead of Blair.

Head Dude said...

And you wouldn't exactly think we took Mullens to set up a trade, unless it was too an NBDL team.

The Dude said...

that works out better for Dallas in its rebuilding phase.

The Franchise said...

Not so fast Head Dude! Apparently you took him to trade him for a guy from Guadaloupe!

The Franchise said...

Whoa, Thabo was worth a first round pick in a trade?

The Dude said...

I know there's a late 1st round or 2nd round sleeper in pretty much every draft - not seeing it in any of these guys.

The Franchise said...

It's going to be one of the Pitt guys since they've slid this far.

Head Dude said...

A French point guard -- apparently we didn't learn our lesson from picking up Robineaux (or whatever his name was) a few years ago. He was the all-time leading scorer in France we thought could be like Parker. Except he sucked.

The Franchise said...

I thought it was already announced that the Lakers sold their pick to the Knicks?

The Dude said...

All quiet on the Rockets front...

The Franchise said...

The Wolves could get a real steal here if they take Blair...

The Dude said...

i don't see 6-7 PF not named Barkley having much impact.

The Franchise said...

Again, this is said grudgingly, but unlike several other 2-guards picked before him, Ellington can actually shoot.

The Franchise said...

Maybe not Dude, but at this point in the first round he's worth finding out.

The Dude said...

And that wraps it up for me! Looks like all the major moves were made before the actual draft this season!

The Franchise said...

Yeah, I have to get ready to go to work. Nothing earth-shattering but still a fun time Dudes...

Head Dude said...

A fitting postscript -- we take some unknown point guard, and the Spurs wisely take Blair in the second round. A nice backup for Timmy.